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be done to avert this so-called fiscal cliff. ed, good to see you. merry christmas to you. >> reporter: merry christmas, kelly. economists have warned that this could lead to another recession if in fact these massive spending cuts and tax hikes kick in at the same time right at the beginning of the new year. what they're trying to do to avert that is scaled back plan that the president suggested late last week that would basically deal with some of the emergency pests of this. extended unemployment benefits for two million people about to be kicked off their benefits a week after christmas the president also wants to extend tax cuts for the middle class. you heard house speaker john boehner say the problem there that will raise tax rates for some. he thinks that will hurt the economy, although over the weekend in sort of a holiday message the speaker suggested maybe they can come together after the holiday. >> of course hope springs eternal and i know we have it in us to come together and do the right thing. we'll continue to work with our colleagues in the congress and the white hous
-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal. when you look at the actions that republicans threw out that idea of throwing in the social security change and suddenly de
for for years and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> that's obviously jon talking about the fiscal cliff. but he also said yesterday that he thinks that the whole concept of putting any armed police officers at schools should be done at the local level, if at all. the big push at the nra is to make it a federal program and it should be funded by the federal government by congress. so it does not look like there's going to be a lot of support for that right now. i've been struck talking to republicans sources. republican sources at how turned off a lot of people were by wayne louisiana pair. more so with the tone and the way he delivered the message. i talked to one republican in congress who said that it seemed like it was a time war. he was very aggressive and he didn't seem to be sort of getting the sentiment of where we are now. >> so listening to lindsey graham saying there's not much we can do to stop someone who is not wired right and talking to the number of lawmakers that you have talked to, after the first of the year when dianne feinstein says she's going to introduce this bill
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